Rosetta Stone Gets a Modern Spin: Interview with Joel A. Freeman

If you’re interested in archaeology, Egyptology, cryptology, science, mathematics, or language studies, you know the significance of the Rosetta Stone.

Rosetta Stone replica

Found in 1799 on the west bank of the Nile by Napoleon’s French soldiers, this 1,700 pound fragment of an ancient slab gave up the clues that ultimately cracked the code to hieroglyphics in 1822.

Dr. Joel A. Freeman has taken his passion for this incredible artifact and channeled it into creating a modern-day metaphor for problem-solving. As part of the Freeman Institute’s new project, he is developing a 5,000 square foot traveling exhibit about the Rosetta Stone’s dramatic history and impact on language, culture, and problem solving – www.RosettaZone.com.

Dr. Freeman spoke with NML Vice President Greg Nedved about the intriguing applications of the Rosetta Stone.

 

 

Joel A. Freeman, Ph.D.

How did you get involved with the Rosetta Stone?

Ever since I was a young man, I have been fascinated by the Rosetta Stone and its impact on archaeology, language and other disciplines. Not even sure how it started. I also have visited the British Museum pretty much every time I have visited London (many times) over the decades.

What are the most surprising facts about the Rosetta Stone?

It was almost smashed into pieces with a sledgehammer by General Menou just days prior to the British gaining control of it. Also, Napoleon probably never even saw it. He left Egypt just prior to the Rosetta Stone being brought down to Cairo.

Who is the leading expert in the world on the Rosetta Stone?

There are a few. Richard Parkinsons comes to mind. Richard used to help with the curation of the Rosetta Stone at the British Museum and wrote a comprehensive book about it. Jonathan Downs is also a premier expert.

What further mysteries are there surrounding the Rosetta Stone?

Is there a duplicate buried somewhere in Egypt?

Is the solving of the Rosetta Stone more of a cryptologic or language achievement?

Both. It’s the grandaddy for cryptologists. But it has also taught us much about language.

What do you think should be the role of a museum dedicated to languages?

To help demystify the many layers and meanings of language and to explore with the interaction language has with culture.

What do you think about the state of foreign language learning in the United States?

In Europe, the average young person can speak at least 3-4 languages. It is not so in America, because we somehow believe we are the center of the universe and English is the only language. Everyone else needs to adjust.  I wish there was a much greater emphasis here in America on learning other languages.

 

Dr. Freeman will be speaking on June 10 at the City of College Park – City Hall, 4500 Knox Rd, College Park, MD 20740. Register now to reserve your spot!

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Located near the Tang capital city of Chang’an, site of the modern city of Xi’an in Shaanxi province, in central China.
Soldiers of that time commonly wore a white head cloth, similar to what is still worn by some peasants in China today.  The implication is that the conscripts were so young that they didn’t know how to wrap their head cloths, and needed help from elders.
Before China’s unification under the Qin dynasty in 221 B.C. there were several competing smaller kingdoms.  Han and Qin were two of these kingdoms. Han was located east of famous mountain passes that separated that area from the power base of the Qin dynasty, with its capital in Chang’an. The Qin dynasty itself only lasted about 15 years after unification due to its draconian rule, but soldiers under Qin rule retained a reputation as strong fighters.
The area of Guanxi, meaning “west of the passes”, refers to the area around the capital city of Chang’an.
This is an alternative name for a province in western China, now known as Qinghai, which literally means “blue sea”.  Kokonor Lake, located in Qinghai, is the largest saline lake in China.  
Before China’s unification under the Qin dynasty in 221 B.C. there were several competing smaller kingdoms.  Han and Qin were two of these kingdoms. Han was located east of famous mountain passes that separated that area from the power base of the Qin dynasty, with its capital in Chang’an. The Qin dynasty itself only lasted about 15 years after unification due to its draconian rule, but soldiers under Qin rule retained a reputation as strong fighters.
Oulart Hollow was the site of a famous victory of the Irish rebels over British troops, which took place on May 27, 1798. The rebels killed nearly all the British attackers in this battle. (Source: Maxwell, W. H. History of the Irish Rebellion in 1798. H. H. Bohn, London 1854, pp 92-93, at archive.org)
The phrase "United Men" is elaborated upon in the Notes section below.

Ghetto


An Italian word meaning “foundry.” It originally referred to a part of the city of Venice where the Jews of that city were forced to live; the area was called “the ghetto” because there was a foundry nearby. The term eventually came to refer to any part of a city in which a minority group is forced to live as a result of social, legal, or economic pressure. Because of the restrictions placed upon them, ghetto residents are often impoverished.

"You’re five nine, I am do-uble two"


A reference to the year 1959 and the year 2020.

"The Currency"


Meaning US dollars - this is drawing attention to the fact that Cuba is effectively dollarized.

"Sixty years with the dom-ino stuck"


This sentence is a reference to the Cold War notion that countries would turn Communist one after the other - like dominos. Cuba was the first domino, but it got stuck - no one else followed through into communism.

رحلنا


رحلنا, or "rahalna," means "we have left."

Habibi


Habibi means "my love."

Ra7eel


Ra7eel, or "raheel," means "departure."

3awda


3awda, or "awda," means "returning."

أهلاً


أهلاً, or "ahalan," means "welcome."

a5 ya baba


a5 ya baba, pronounced "akh ya baba," means "Oh my father."

golpe


Treece translates "golpe" as "beating", which is correct, however misses the secondary meaning of the word: "coup".

Carlos


The “Carlos” referred to in the poem is most likely Carlos Bolsonaro, a politician from Rio de Janeiro and the second son of Jair Bolsonaro, Brazil’s current president. His and his father’s involvement in Marielle’s murder has been questioned and investigated.